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antigel G30
antigelul cu indicativul G30 este bun pt C3?-in vasul de expansiune culoarea este ceva de genul roz/maro deschis. Daca raspunsul este afirmativ se poate mixa cu G12 (banuiesc ca acesta este pusin circuitul de racire) ?
conform compozitie chimice ar trebui ca cele 2 sortimente(G12 si G30) sa fie compatibile dar nu inteleg de ce codificarea diferita. multumesc anticipat pt raspuns.
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conform compozitie chimice ar trebui ca cele 2 sortimente(G12 si G30) sa fie compatibile dar nu inteleg de ce codificarea diferita. multumesc anticipat pt raspuns.
cu stima, costin
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Astazi... fara a ma consulta cu un specialist, am cumparat 4 l. de antigel EVOX Premium G 30 in vederea schimbului. Nu stiu ce antigel a avut masina de noua , antigelul ne mai fiind schimbat pana acuma. Curozitatea ma pus sa intreb un cunoscut ( dupa cumparare) , un mecanic la un service daca acest G 30 merge si pe motorul meu.Bomba a fost cand mi-a zis ca NU, chipurile ar distruge furtunurile ,garniturii e.t.c. Intrebarea mea este daca acest G 30 este compatibil pt.Xsara 2 -se poate folosi fara posibile urmari - si care ar fii diferenta acestor doua tipurii G 12 si G 30. In cartea autot. nu se specifica tipul si indicativul antigelului. Inca o rugaminte : daca aveti un extras din carte service unde a-si putea vedea negru/alb ce este indicat ca antigel.-Cu multumiri !
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Help an ignorant ! Please!
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Pe eticheta produsului ce specificatii sunt scrise ? Daca poti, fa o poza la eticheta de pe bidon si incarc-o aici. Nu am auzit de vreun antigel care sa "manance" furtune si garnituri, ba din contra. Glicolii din compozitia oricarui antigel, indiferent de tipul lui au multiplu rol de protectie (inghet, coroziune). Cel putin, asta e parerea mea.
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Din pacate am bidoanele in garaj la servici si nu am cum sa le fac o poza. Am intrat pe Moll.ro si uite ce zic tovarasii :EVOX Premium G 30 (Roz)- - antigel concentrat-Lichid antigel concentrat, de cea mai buna calitate, conÞinând exclusiv aditivi organici, destinat in mod special motoarelor moderne, cu bloc motor din aluminiu. Utilizarea sa asigura obtinerea unor performanÞe de vârf si o perioadã lungã de schimb. Oferã protecÞia eficientã a sistemului de rãcire Împotriva ÎngheÞului, supraÎncãlzirii, coroziunii chimice ºi a fenomenului de cavitatie . Este obligatorie diluarea acestuia inainte de utilizare, cu apa distilata sau deionizata! In principal se poate utiliza În sistemele de rãcire a motoarelor moderne, performante cu bloc motor din aluminiu sau fonta, indiferent de tipul motorului.
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Punct de fierbere (°C) 175
Punct de inghetare (°C) -37 (50 vol. % in water)
Viscozitate la -40°C (mm2/s)
Da-ti o parere !!! Risc sa fac schimbul ? Partea proasta ca in cartea masini nu se specifica tipul si specificatiile folosite. Culoarea actuala este un fel de roz si nu a fost schimbat din 2004 cand am luat masina(noua)
Nivele de performanta. Aprobari BS 6580:1992 (Rev. 1997)
ASTM D 3306
Ford WSS-M97B44-D/F
Porsche: Tech. Information
Scania TB 1451
MTL 5048
VW TL 774-F
MB 325.3
MAN 324 Typ SNF
Proprietati
Valori caracteristice
Punct de fierbere (°C) 175
Punct de inghetare (°C) -37 (50 vol. % in water)
Viscozitate la -40°C (mm2/s)
Da-ti o parere !!! Risc sa fac schimbul ? Partea proasta ca in cartea masini nu se specifica tipul si specificatiile folosite. Culoarea actuala este un fel de roz si nu a fost schimbat din 2004 cand am luat masina(noua)
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Parerea mea e sa faci schimbul linistit. Ai grija ca e concentrat, deci il diluezi cu apa distilata (1/1 => 1 litru antigel concentrat + 1 litru apa distilata), astfel are o rezistenta la inghet pana la -37 grade C, asa cum zice producatorul. Sa mai ai grija ca cel vechi sa curga tot din motor si instalatia de racire. Mai asteapta si alte pareri.
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@robistan25--Uite ce am primit de la un mare editor din UK. in probleme auto ! -- citeste te rog si fa-ti o parere .----
Recommendations liquid cooling Citroen Xsara ! liquid cooling G 30 or G 12 ? What is the difference between the two?. G 30 can exchange?----Thanks in advance!-Toro Tiberiu (ro)
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We`are not aware of the G30/G12 code. The type of anti freeze you need should be shown in your handbook.Other than that Anti freeze comes in colour. Either GREEN or ORANGE.
If you use Green it should be changed every 2 years (50,000 KMs)
If you use Orange it should be changed every 5 years (160,000Kms)
You should NEVER mix the 2 colours together.
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Recommendations liquid cooling Citroen Xsara ! liquid cooling G 30 or G 12 ? What is the difference between the two?. G 30 can exchange?----Thanks in advance!-Toro Tiberiu (ro)
Reply From: david@honestjohn.co.uk
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We`are not aware of the G30/G12 code. The type of anti freeze you need should be shown in your handbook.Other than that Anti freeze comes in colour. Either GREEN or ORANGE.
If you use Green it should be changed every 2 years (50,000 KMs)
If you use Orange it should be changed every 5 years (160,000Kms)
You should NEVER mix the 2 colours together.
Hope this helps
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Asa cum deja s-a spus mai sus sunt doua tipuri de antigel :
- cel traditional ( ca la Dacia) pe baza de mono-etilen-glicol cu compozitie chimica valabil 2ani:
- si cel organic ( asa cum specifica si pe cel care l-ai luat) care are longevitate mai mare respectiv 5 ani.
Singura conditie de atentoinare este:NU SE AMESTECA PRIMUL CU AL DOILEA( CEL CHIMIC CU CEL ORGANIC) !!!
IN MASINA AI AVUT CEL ORGANIC. SE SCHIMBA LA 5 ANI.
- cel traditional ( ca la Dacia) pe baza de mono-etilen-glicol cu compozitie chimica valabil 2ani:
- si cel organic ( asa cum specifica si pe cel care l-ai luat) care are longevitate mai mare respectiv 5 ani.
Singura conditie de atentoinare este:NU SE AMESTECA PRIMUL CU AL DOILEA( CEL CHIMIC CU CEL ORGANIC) !!!
IN MASINA AI AVUT CEL ORGANIC. SE SCHIMBA LA 5 ANI.

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Aurele ! nu e nimic concludent din cea ce zici tu. Un exemplu -la VW scrie pe vasul de expansiune G12 si nimic altceva.-La Mazda azi am vazut tot pe vas G48. De ce ?.. ma intereseaza motivul si nu doar ca cel cu mono-etilen tine 2 ani si cel organic 5 ani. Ieri am fost la DistrictServ Citroen -Bv. si am cerut parerea la doi mecanici. Spre uimirea mea ,unul a spus ca pot face cu incredere schimbul , iar al 2-lea intrebat dupa c.c.a 10 min. a zis ca nu.Chipurile G30 poate distruge garniturile e.t.c. Ei acum ce sa mai cred ? Nu stiu de ce nu se specifica in cartea masini ,tipul de antigel folosibil . Ma duc maine si mai cumpar 4 l de G 12 si gata!
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Treaba'i oabla !- Am primit de la producator,, Moll-Hungaria ,, verdictul de Ok. Se poate folosi la schimb ,dar cu conditia ca dupa golirea celui vechii ,tot circuitul sa fie spalat cu apa distilata sa nu ramana gram din cel vechii. Cat ,,Tam-tam ,, pentru un banal schimb cand se putea foarte simplu sa fie specificat in cartea tehnica tipul de antigel folosibil. Multumesc celor ce mi-au raspuns !
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